Anand, for a point of reference, what did you think of current gen console titles this season such as: Warriors, Gun, Resident Evil 4, Guitar Hero, Burnout Revenge, Shadow of the Colossus, Socom 3, Drag Quest, etc?
I have an XBOX 360, and Kameo, NBA 2K6, Perfect Dark Zero, Madden 06, Project Gotham 3, and Call of Duty 2. I agree with all comments Anand has said regarding the couple of games he mentioned. AA is great, very smooth high def look on my HDTV.
Dragon Quest 8 is great. I'm 22 hours into it and feel like I've just started. Old school RPG with not much new to introduce, and you have to level up to beat portions of the story (which is what I like in an RPG).
I hated Shadow of Colossus. I stopped playing it after the 2nd boss. "Defeat bosses 3 stories high" just isn't interesting at all to me. I'm not agreed with by most reviews, though.
After reading XBox360 complaints, it makes me wonder that
1- Anand was lucky and got a good xbox360
2- Some poor guy at Microsoft had to test the unit for 36 hours straight and ship the box after passing the test.
It ain't funny if you wait in line 18 hours to get home to test your new Xbox360 play for 30 mins and find out it crapped out on ya.
ViperLair repaired getting an Xbox360 that had a burning smell after turning it on... Maybe MS has mobo's with bad caps?
I don't think luck has anything to do with getting a bad 360. I've used 2 so far and they both have run great for me. I'd say it is luck that gets you a bad one judging by the number of people that are actually complaining vs the number of 360s sold.
I wonder how many of those who arent impressed are running it on standard or ed tv's vs HD. Having run it on a 42inch ed plasma and my dell 2405fpw I can say that there is a big difference between the two (at least on Proejct gotham 3 and Perfect Dark, havent tried Kameo yet, and suspect DOA4 will have similar results).
So... according to my 360, I only have a 13 GB hard drive. Does yours tell you that too? Cuz if not... I'm going to have words with MS about them giving me a new HD.
I'd like to know more about how the Media Center stuff works. As in, the part where you stream movies/tv-shows and MP3's off your XP machine. Is it hard to set up? Does it read all video-files? Does it run HR HDTV releases? I want to know what it can and can not run :)
I'm very curious about this, as the xbox360 would save me a lot of trouble if it did everything the way I hope it does. It would save me the trouble of getting a HTCP. Any limitations would be nice to know about. Sitting with a wireless controller in the couch to change to the current episode of Lost, would be very sweet.
We all can see by now that XBOX360 is a meager attempt at next-generation gaming.
A console like PS3, which understands the importance of time, is waiting a bit longer so that designers and developers have the time necessary to provide the best in gaming.
You appear to be the type type of person who would ask for seconds if Sony served you a sh!t sandwich. Did you ever play the original xbox for more than five minutes before saying "this sucks, I'm so glad that I have a PS2"? Maybe cursing the xbox makes you feel better about not wasting your money on an "inferior" system. All of this Xbox vs. PS2/3 fanboy stuff is getting a bit ridiculous based on all the forums I've read. Here's a novel idea, wait for the PS3 to come out and then compare them......however, for people like you, that would be irrelevant (see first sentence). Regardless, the PS3 is a very interesting machine with lots of potential. It's going to be very difficult (read time-consuming and expensive, but not impossible) for developers to reach the full potential of the hardware given the multicore structures with specialized cores. It seems like it will be writing code in languages inside languages. I can't wait to see how it comes out. Regardless, no one is going to turn down developing for PS3 given the huge installed fan base (people like you). I have no strict allegiance to xbox, but I love how I could mod mine. I think Sony is going to win the battle of the consoles for this generation, but not necessarily due to superior hardware and software. I think that fanboy-like behavior will play a part. However, Xbox 360 will definitely gain more ground on Sony for Microsoft. By the time the next console comes out, I predict that MS will be at least even with Sony.
I just rolled my eyes so hard I fell backwards off my chair
Thank you Doc for bringing your DeLorean back from 2007 with vast generalizations of a console that we here in the past have yet to see along with a tag line Ken Kuturagi would be proud of.
Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, hell if Kitchen-Aid came out with a console with great games I'd play it. The consoles don't matter (at least to me) it's the games I play that do.
Which is the precise context in which my previous statement was intended to convey; it's the games that matter.
If you didn't re-read my post for clarity sake. I implied: Sony is waiting another year, another year to develope their games; another year to develope their technology, another year to make sure that when their next-generation console hits stores, it will truly feel like a next-generation console.
With XBOX360 thus far, my friends, people from around the world, are already expressing displease.
So, do I need a time machine to make such generalizations? I think not, just input your rationale and logic and the answers will become quite clear.
Considering the large number of developers that just recently acquired actual PS3 development hardware (or those still waiting), that extra time is apparently quite necessary and does not necessarily have anything to do with doing next-gen right. They had no choice.
If you want to miss out on great games, then yeah. The 360 is an amazing console, which hasn't even been tapped yet. Just about every launch title is merely a port, and barely takes advantage of the console. With that said, take a look at games like Kameo and Perfect Dark. The texture work alone is something that no game, on console or pc, can compete with. I for one can't wait to see what the future holds.
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LanceVance - Sunday, November 27, 2005 - link
Anand, for a point of reference, what did you think of current gen console titles this season such as: Warriors, Gun, Resident Evil 4, Guitar Hero, Burnout Revenge, Shadow of the Colossus, Socom 3, Drag Quest, etc?007ELmO - Monday, January 2, 2006 - link
I have an XBOX 360, and Kameo, NBA 2K6, Perfect Dark Zero, Madden 06, Project Gotham 3, and Call of Duty 2. I agree with all comments Anand has said regarding the couple of games he mentioned. AA is great, very smooth high def look on my HDTV.Dragon Quest 8 is great. I'm 22 hours into it and feel like I've just started. Old school RPG with not much new to introduce, and you have to level up to beat portions of the story (which is what I like in an RPG).
I hated Shadow of Colossus. I stopped playing it after the 2nd boss. "Defeat bosses 3 stories high" just isn't interesting at all to me. I'm not agreed with by most reviews, though.
gnumantsc - Thursday, November 24, 2005 - link
After reading XBox360 complaints, it makes me wonder that1- Anand was lucky and got a good xbox360
2- Some poor guy at Microsoft had to test the unit for 36 hours straight and ship the box after passing the test.
It ain't funny if you wait in line 18 hours to get home to test your new Xbox360 play for 30 mins and find out it crapped out on ya.
ViperLair repaired getting an Xbox360 that had a burning smell after turning it on... Maybe MS has mobo's with bad caps?
BornStar18 - Friday, November 25, 2005 - link
I don't think luck has anything to do with getting a bad 360. I've used 2 so far and they both have run great for me. I'd say it is luck that gets you a bad one judging by the number of people that are actually complaining vs the number of 360s sold.static1117 - Thursday, November 24, 2005 - link
Good post-Ive been hearing that people arent so impressed with the new xbox, but i wonder if thats because we are used to pc games?
ill be waiting for ps3 regardless.
jkresh - Thursday, November 24, 2005 - link
I wonder how many of those who arent impressed are running it on standard or ed tv's vs HD. Having run it on a 42inch ed plasma and my dell 2405fpw I can say that there is a big difference between the two (at least on Proejct gotham 3 and Perfect Dark, havent tried Kameo yet, and suspect DOA4 will have similar results).Pooka - Thursday, November 24, 2005 - link
So... according to my 360, I only have a 13 GB hard drive. Does yours tell you that too? Cuz if not... I'm going to have words with MS about them giving me a new HD.BornStar18 - Friday, November 25, 2005 - link
My 360 reports a 13GB HD as well. I'm still trying to figure that out.MrMarbles - Thursday, November 24, 2005 - link
I'd like to know more about how the Media Center stuff works. As in, the part where you stream movies/tv-shows and MP3's off your XP machine. Is it hard to set up? Does it read all video-files? Does it run HR HDTV releases? I want to know what it can and can not run :)I'm very curious about this, as the xbox360 would save me a lot of trouble if it did everything the way I hope it does. It would save me the trouble of getting a HTCP. Any limitations would be nice to know about. Sitting with a wireless controller in the couch to change to the current episode of Lost, would be very sweet.
GhandiInstinct - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - link
We all can see by now that XBOX360 is a meager attempt at next-generation gaming.A console like PS3, which understands the importance of time, is waiting a bit longer so that designers and developers have the time necessary to provide the best in gaming.
Kudos Sony.
Sour pickles Microsoft..
fenderkb76 - Sunday, November 27, 2005 - link
You appear to be the type type of person who would ask for seconds if Sony served you a sh!t sandwich. Did you ever play the original xbox for more than five minutes before saying "this sucks, I'm so glad that I have a PS2"? Maybe cursing the xbox makes you feel better about not wasting your money on an "inferior" system. All of this Xbox vs. PS2/3 fanboy stuff is getting a bit ridiculous based on all the forums I've read. Here's a novel idea, wait for the PS3 to come out and then compare them......however, for people like you, that would be irrelevant (see first sentence). Regardless, the PS3 is a very interesting machine with lots of potential. It's going to be very difficult (read time-consuming and expensive, but not impossible) for developers to reach the full potential of the hardware given the multicore structures with specialized cores. It seems like it will be writing code in languages inside languages. I can't wait to see how it comes out. Regardless, no one is going to turn down developing for PS3 given the huge installed fan base (people like you). I have no strict allegiance to xbox, but I love how I could mod mine. I think Sony is going to win the battle of the consoles for this generation, but not necessarily due to superior hardware and software. I think that fanboy-like behavior will play a part. However, Xbox 360 will definitely gain more ground on Sony for Microsoft. By the time the next console comes out, I predict that MS will be at least even with Sony.brshoemak - Thursday, November 24, 2005 - link
I just rolled my eyes so hard I fell backwards off my chairThank you Doc for bringing your DeLorean back from 2007 with vast generalizations of a console that we here in the past have yet to see along with a tag line Ken Kuturagi would be proud of.
Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, hell if Kitchen-Aid came out with a console with great games I'd play it. The consoles don't matter (at least to me) it's the games I play that do.
GhandiInstinct - Thursday, November 24, 2005 - link
Which is the precise context in which my previous statement was intended to convey; it's the games that matter.If you didn't re-read my post for clarity sake. I implied: Sony is waiting another year, another year to develope their games; another year to develope their technology, another year to make sure that when their next-generation console hits stores, it will truly feel like a next-generation console.
With XBOX360 thus far, my friends, people from around the world, are already expressing displease.
So, do I need a time machine to make such generalizations? I think not, just input your rationale and logic and the answers will become quite clear.
nowayout99 - Friday, November 25, 2005 - link
Considering the large number of developers that just recently acquired actual PS3 development hardware (or those still waiting), that extra time is apparently quite necessary and does not necessarily have anything to do with doing next-gen right. They had no choice.vijay333 - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - link
so...in summary...stick with PC gaming...gotcha.getting some coffee to read the whole post now :)
NotAok - Monday, November 28, 2005 - link
If you want to miss out on great games, then yeah. The 360 is an amazing console, which hasn't even been tapped yet. Just about every launch title is merely a port, and barely takes advantage of the console. With that said, take a look at games like Kameo and Perfect Dark. The texture work alone is something that no game, on console or pc, can compete with. I for one can't wait to see what the future holds.microAmp - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - link
? I thought he was implying the death of PC gaming...